Lier, Disciple of the Drowned
Legendary Creature — Human Wizard
Spells can't be countered.
Each instant and sorcery card in your graveyard has flashback. The flashback cost is equal to that card's mana cost.
- CMC
- 5
- Mana cost
- Color identity
- U
- Rarity
- rare
- Set
- Store Championships
- Price
- —
- EDHREC rank
- #2225
Lier, Disciple of the Drowned turns your graveyard into a second hand — every instant and sorcery you've cast becomes recastable, and countermagic stops working against you entirely while it's on board. The cost is real: you can't run counterspells yourself, so your interaction has to live on the stack at sorcery speed or below. Merfolk Secretkeeper // Venture Deeper feeds the yard to fuel flashback targets, and Neerdiv, Devious Diver pairs so tightly with Lier that over 62% of Neerdiv decks run it.
Best Commanders
Commanders with the highest synergy

Neerdiv, Devious Diver
Neerdiv, Devious Diver mills cards into the graveyard as a core mechanic, which is exactly what Lier, Disciple of the Drowned needs to start generating value — the two form a self-reinforcing engine where each spell you flash back mills more targets for the next.

Shiko and Narset, Unified
Shiko and Narset, Unified rewards casting spells from everywhere but your hand, and Lier, Disciple of the Drowned's flashback clause turns the graveyard into a permanent extension of that reward loop, letting you double-dip on every instant and sorcery you've already cast.

Teval, Arbiter of Virtue
Teval, Arbiter of Virtue cares about casting from exile and the graveyard, and Lier, Disciple of the Drowned ensures the graveyard never runs dry, keeping the trigger engine live turn after turn.

Zevlor, Elturel Exile
Zevlor, Elturel Exile wants a deep library of instants and sorceries to copy and redirect, and Lier, Disciple of the Drowned effectively doubles that library by making every spell in the yard available again.

Elsha, Threefold Master
Elsha, Threefold Master casts from the top of the library and rewards spell density, and Lier, Disciple of the Drowned adds a second axis of redundancy by recycling key spells from the graveyard when the top of the deck runs dry.
Format Analysis
Where it lives, where it can’t
| Format | Verdict |
|---|---|
| commander | legal |
| legacy | legal |
| modern | legal |
| pioneer | legal |
| standard | not legal |
| vintage | legal |
| pauper | not legal |
| oathbreaker | legal |
In Commander, Lier, Disciple of the Drowned is a genuine engine piece — the no-counterspells clause is a meaningful deckbuilding constraint, but in graveyard-heavy blue decks the flashback upside far outweighs it. Modern and Legacy are where the math gets complicated: at five mana with no immediate protection, Lier hits the board too slowly in those formats to reliably take over, and the anti-counter clause can hurt you in tempo matchups. Pioneer is similarly hostile — the format's interaction density means Lier rarely survives long enough to pay off. Oathbreaker is the sleeper home: smaller starting life totals and signature spell recursion make the flashback engine snowball faster than Commander, and the anti-counter clause shuts down a lot of the format's most common answers.
Key Combos
Combo lines featuring this card




Lier, Disciple of the DrownedMerfolk Secretkeeper // Venture DeeperAshnod's AltarChromatic Orrery
Infinite death triggers; Infinite ETB; Infinite LTB; Infinite magecraft triggers; Infinite mill; Infinite sacrifice triggers; Infinite self-mill; Infinite storm count
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Lier, Disciple of the DrownedMerfolk Secretkeeper // Venture DeeperPhyrexian AltarDesecrated Tomb
Infinite creature tokens; Infinite mill; Infinite sacrifice triggers; Infinite colored mana; Infinite LTB; Infinite death triggers
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Lier, Disciple of the DrownedMerfolk Secretkeeper // Venture DeeperAshnod's AltarMycosynth Lattice
Infinite death triggers; Infinite ETB; Infinite LTB; Infinite magecraft triggers; Infinite mill; Infinite sacrifice triggers; Infinite self-mill; Infinite storm count
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Leyline of SanctitySky SwallowerFractured IdentityLier, Disciple of the Drowned
Gain control of all permanents; Mass Land Denial
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Rosethorn Acolyte // Seasonal RitualAshnod's AltarLier, Disciple of the DrownedSwarm Intelligence
Infinite ETB; Infinite LTB; Infinite colorless mana; Infinite death triggers; Infinite magecraft triggers; Infinite sacrifice triggers; Infinite storm count
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Current price
unknown tier
Current pricing for Lier, Disciple of the Drowned isn't available in this data set, so check Scryfall or TCGPlayer for a live number before buying. Given its 62%+ inclusion rate in Neerdiv, Devious Diver lists and strong showings across several other popular commanders, demand is steady enough that it's unlikely to be a bulk rare.
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Sources
Mentioned
- Merfolk Secretkeeper // Venture Deeper
- Neerdiv, Devious Diver
- Shiko and Narset, Unified
- Teval, Arbiter of Virtue
- Zevlor, Elturel Exile
- Elsha, Threefold Master
- Ashnod's Altar
- Chromatic Orrery
- Phyrexian Altar
- Desecrated Tomb
- Mycosynth Lattice
- Leyline of Sanctity
- Sky Swallower
- Fractured Identity
- Rosethorn Acolyte // Seasonal Ritual
- Swarm Intelligence
Updated . Data from Scryfall, EDHREC, and Commander Spellbook.